women and gays: ruining sci-fi for those poor, oppressed white nerds

[rivendellrose]

SLog has a few things to say about the idiot who thinks women and gays are ruining science fiction.

I have a few things to say about him, too. They are as follows:

As far as women go, we've been here since the beginning - no, really the *real* beginning - we've been involved in the making of your favorite things (among many fine others), and we're not going away. The gays have been here since the beginning, too, but, to my horror, I can't actually think of any completely certain known examples - anybody help me out on that?

Seriously, I can't believe this sort of attitude keeps going.

There are other words, but I'm trying to cut back on swearing in my LJ. :P

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[seachanges.livejournal.com]

Somebody else on my f-list posted about that earlier. Apparently, these assholes are of the "women should be barefoot and pregnant" variety, so of course they see any strong female character as a threat, and any male character treating a woman as an equal as weak and emasculated.

That they hate gays as well is no great surprise. Misogyny and homophobia do tend to go hand-in-hand.

[rivendellrose.livejournal.com]

Totally true, and I like to think that limited scope means they're much more worthy of pity than of anger, but... for crying out loud. It's just so damned tiring to see this kind of argument.

Misogyny and homophobia do tend to go hand-in-hand.

Very much so. Anything not the usual he-man heterosexual concept of life is a threat to these guys. It must be tiring. :P

[seachanges.livejournal.com]

I know, I know.

I'm reminded of when I ran into an article in which one of the writers for the new Trek film expressed his shock and amazement that there were so many female Star Trek fans. At least he wasn't saying that women had no place in Trek fandom, but the idea that SF is a boy's club ... it's so damned persistent. These fools are just the far extreme of that spectrum, insisting that women have no place in SF at all, unless it's to serve men.