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If I had wanted to read John Locke, the US Constitution, and the Federalist papers, I would have taken a class in either US political history or American philosophy. I would not have taken an English literature class.

Yes, I understand this is 'literature,' at the most basic definition. So are fanfic, my journal entries, and (should I ever write one) a fecking shopping list. The English department is supposed to deal with books. Fiction. Things written with a purpose other than politics, damn it.

I hate this class. So. Very. Much.

Annoying Self-Righteous Bastard Who Never Shuts Up started in about politics today. It was all I could do not to turn around and snap his head off for going on about how everyone in the media was so 'biased' against Bush. Move to the fucking eastern side of the state if you want to live in Republican-world, buddy. Nobody here gives a fuck about you and your conservative little world-view.

Jen oversleeping and not getting tea (or any breakfast, for that matter) before classes is not a good thing.

Oh, and [livejournal.com profile] zinjadu, I have the jacket for you. I hope it works for you. And I'm practicing the scars on my hands, so hopefully I can work that out. ;)

Date: 2004-10-25 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhapper.livejournal.com
Well, there is some argument that the ideal of federalism and the idea of liberty bestowed upon the individual ushered in the modern era. It would be hard to imagine the idea of a liberal, individualist society without the contribution and the reinterpretation of Voltaire's ideas and Rousseau's. Locke is definite required reading. I don't think Kafka, Orwell, or even the works of Elliot or Pound would make much sense if the ideas of individual morality and humanism weren't clearly defined. Even Dickens bought into the idea of America, but came away disappointed.

Sorry if I sound pedantic, but my other love is poli sci.

~Chris

Date: 2004-10-25 04:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Not at all - I'm not arguing the idea that these are important works, it's more that I'm frustrated with having to read them. ;) And I'm very glad some people like poli-sci, because if the world were left to people like me, we'd probably still be living in a tribal or monarchic system - I have no interest in politics, and no mind for understanding what they're talking about.

Date: 2004-10-25 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhapper.livejournal.com
Yeah, they can drag though. The trick is to listen to swelling, patrotic music and read them aloud. It's a little more moving. Well, except for the federalist papers. You need bourbon and a little plastic flag for that.

Date: 2004-10-25 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhapper.livejournal.com
P.S. Neo-conservatives deserve painful, terribly uncomfortable shoes and thin, acrylic sweaters.

I watched a BBC documentary last night about Neocons. Apparently, the myth of American righteousness and the evil of the enemy is more important than the truth to them, by their own admission. Look up Leo Strauss, father of the American Neo-conservative movement. The guy called himself an anti-individualist. He warped the already distressing ideas in Plato's Republic into apple pie fascism. Though Kissinger practiced Real Politik, playing nations off each other to attempt stale mate, he didn't practice the myth-building that Perle, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, and Cheney have practiced over the course of the Nixon, Reagan, Bush, and GW administrations. It's some frightening reading.

Date: 2004-10-25 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zinjadu.livejournal.com
Eeep. *patpat*

And yay! Jacket, jacket, jacket!

Date: 2004-10-25 07:58 pm (UTC)

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