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I know I'm going to lose some of my DW fan-cred for saying this, but... Please, for the love of everything that doesn't suck, don't let this happen. Please?

Unnverving and potentially-bad idea: A new Doctor Who movie.
How to make me more nervous about that idea: Russel Davies writing a Doctor Who movie. He's done some great things, some of his episodes are awesome, but I'm getting really un-enamoured of his style lately. If you define "lately" as "on and off since the end of S1."
Even Worse: Star-casting the companion.
Worse-than-Worse: Davies insisting he can't see doing it without Tennant as the Doctor.

News for you, Davies: We all have "our Doctor." We all have to get the hell over it when that Doctor leaves (unless you want to be the creepy person who's still mad about Baker (whichever one) leaving, twenty-some years after the fact. (And no, I'm not thinking of any particular person. Although I'm sure they're out there somewhere.) We all have to be willing to let the Doctor move on, or the story will die. It's kind of like letting your companions move on... oh, wait. Davies can't figure out how to do that, either.

It's not that I don't like Zeta-Jones. I do! I really do like her. I just... really, it's just that I think a movie would be a fabulously bad idea. No matter who did it, or who's in it, or whatever. The whole thought just makes me twitch.



On the other hand, there's nothing more cheering than another bunch of folks who think "something on the camera" means "OMG, GHOST!!!!" My entirely uneducated guess would be a bug. Possibly even a dust mote. Ooooooooo. XD

Date: 2008-09-11 09:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jinxed-wood.livejournal.com
I had a bit of a brainfreeze about that news item too - and then I went to reread this casting spoiler in order to regain my zen space.

Pleasantly deluded?

Moi?

Date: 2008-09-11 10:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Oh, if only! The only thing better than that, for me, would be Eccleston coming back! ♥

...Or Ace, as your icon just reminded me. Ace! XD

Date: 2008-09-11 10:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jinxed-wood.livejournal.com
Or all THREE of them - at UNIT, with MARTHA!

Ten? Who's he?

Date: 2008-09-11 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassildra.livejournal.com
I really don't see Zeta-Jones as a Companion. Granted, I've ... never really SEEN the series, so I epically fail in that respect, but she just doesn't strike me as someone who's all about time travel and stuff? I dunno.

Also, Tennant is cool and all, but omgwtf. Please to be getting over fanboi, Davies.


I'm going back to the Trek fandom corner now...

Date: 2008-09-11 10:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
....Sorry, I just completely lost the thread of this conversation after thinking of Martha and Ace together in the same place. I think I would die of crush-overload. ♥♥♥

(Eight can stay, too. Because I love him, and because Martha would do so much better with him than she did with Ten.)

Date: 2008-09-11 10:10 pm (UTC)
ext_18428: (pink poppies)
From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Yeeeeeeah. Somehow, the idea of her and sci-fi just doesn't inspire me with confidence.

Tennant is adorable and fun (I mean, he's a fanboy! What can be not-awesome about a fanboy who finally gets to play his childhood dream part and is actually good at it?), but... he's not the be-all end-all of the show, that's for sure. The whole point of DW is that it goes on beyond any individual actor.

You're probably safer there... at least until the new movie comes out. ;)

Date: 2008-09-11 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassildra.livejournal.com
DW is story-driven, as opposed to character-driven, in a lot of ways. So... yeah.

Oh God, the new movie. I'm so scared, Jen.

Date: 2008-09-11 10:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Exactly.

I don't know. With as bad as "Enterprise" was (I know some people liked it, but I just couldn't abide that show), I can't help thinking a restart might not be a bad thing for the franchise. And they have gotten an impressive cast together... We'll see, I guess.

Date: 2008-09-11 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassildra.livejournal.com
I am usually all for reboots, but with ... I can't remember their names. The two who took over from Roddenberry. Still in charge, I am not optimistic.

Date: 2008-09-11 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
I admit to a fondness for Berman and Piller, but I'm biased - my first and greatest love of all the shows was DS9, and that was their baby. So I forgive them for occasional weirdness and stupidity.

Besides - J.J. Abrams is supposed to be really good, so... maybe his influence will be a good thing.

Date: 2008-09-11 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassildra.livejournal.com
Don't get me wrong, I adore DS9 for being grittier than the rest. I'm just.... kind of cranky, I guess, because Voyager and Enterprise failed so hard for me.

JJ Abrams... one can hope.

Date: 2008-09-11 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kusanivy.livejournal.com
*huggle DS9*

OMG I was soooooo obsessed with DS9 when I was a kid. Loved it, loved, it loved it.

Mind you I think most of that had to do with the fact I thought Odo being a shapeshifter was awesome. ;)

Date: 2008-09-11 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kusanivy.livejournal.com
8 coming back would be fabulous!

Yeah the FOX movie was just terrible but I have several of his audio dramas and those are pretty darn good (my favorite being Chimes of Midnight which is just frikkin creepy!)! Although towards the end things just got bizarre with him.

Date: 2008-09-11 11:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Same with me - Odo was my first favorite character. ;) And the makeup... I loved the design for the Cardassians. So neat-looking!

Date: 2008-09-11 11:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
I've only heard a few of the Eight audios, but the ones I've heard have been pretty good. Have you heard Shada? They've got it available (in small pieces, alas, but it's there...) on the BBC site.

Date: 2008-09-11 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kusanivy.livejournal.com
I started to listen to Shada but never finished.

I haven't heard all of 8 either - I think, hmmmm maybe 5 or 6 audio plays. I had a friend who used to lend them to me as soon as she got a new one.

Date: 2008-09-11 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kusanivy.livejournal.com
I think the episode that really hooked me was The Forsaken in season 1 where Odo and Ambassador Troi get stuck in the turobolift together. I was like "He turns into a puddle? That's so cool!"

Lol - I used to be really bad. I had all the novels, and all the behind the scenes books. Give me a couple lines of dialogue and I knew exactly what episode it was (although I've sadly lost said ability through dis-use ;) )

Date: 2008-09-11 11:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Yes! That was one of the first episodes I saw.

It's good to know someone else was as overboard about that show as I was... I've had the unnerving experience lately of discovering that I can still recognize most of the actors, rattle off inane trivia, remember most of the episode names...

It's sick, you know. I can hardly remember a thing from my high school chemistry or US History classes, but every stupid thing from my childhood TV shows sticks in my head like super-glue. :P

Date: 2008-09-12 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kusanivy.livejournal.com
Actually I learned in university that that is in fact, a well documented psychological phenomenon. Supposedly it's the reason behind the stereotype of the absent-minded professor (ie. a person who's brilliant in one area yet totally scatterbrained in another). Your mind will take a topic it likes (an area of expertise) and focus on it, making more connections and strengthening connections between anything related to that topic. Meanwhile anything not related to said topic only gets a minimal amount of attention, making it more likely the neural connectons will break down and information will be forgotten.

Oh and my housemate is discovering just how overboard I was, given that she made the mistake of buying me season 1 of DS9 for Christmas. Now I'm remembering all the crazy trivia I used to know ;)
Nope, I was so overboard I was about 6 feet underwater ;)
Like I said, I had all the novels, all the magazines, I'd stay up every Saturday to watch (the only channel we got it on showed it at midnight on Saturdays) - yup, obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. I was Dax once for Halloween (and the only reason I wasn't Odo was I didn't know enough about FX make-up at the time to actually pull off his face)

Date: 2008-09-12 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windrose.livejournal.com
EEEE! I hadn't seen that spoiler! Oh. Oh, that would be too awesome for WORDS. I've always liked McGann, and while yeah, the movie sucked, it would be so wonderful to see him in action for real.

Date: 2008-09-12 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windrose.livejournal.com
"Enterprise" was better than "Voyager" ... and that's about the only thing positive that can be said for it.

Well. That, and Connor Trinneer shirtless for no damned reason in a lot of episodes, but then, I'm shallow. &hearts

Date: 2008-09-12 05:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jinxed-wood.livejournal.com
Ah, but you see, I like the bizarre! Especially when it is bizarrely eight.

And ZAGREUS is inside my head! oh YES!

Cough...ahem...okay, resuming normal programming now....


Date: 2008-09-12 05:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jinxed-wood.livejournal.com
[Grins] I'm a big fan of the big finish audios so I'd love to see him on the tv screen again[crosses fingers]

Date: 2008-09-14 09:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] akashasheiress.livejournal.com
NO DON'T!

Well, maybe if they make it an epic Doctor/Romana romance.

I'm mad about Baker.

Date: 2008-09-15 05:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] franzeska
Assuming you're the same one, you ran off before I could annoyingly write out all the things I was trying to tell you about. Naturally, as an obsessive fangirl, I can't let that pass, so here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revengers_Tragedy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Night_is_Too_Long
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustle_(TV_series)

Date: 2008-09-15 05:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rivendellrose.livejournal.com
Ahah! Awesome, thank you!

Sorry about the running off - I got plied with flowers and such and then couldn't find you to say goodbye. ;)

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