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[rivendellrose]

Blessedly, after talking to Mom last night I determined that it'll be ok if I wait to return the dratted shoes until Saturday. Thank heaven. I really didn't want to go through the trouble of hauling my butt all the way to Northgate tonight after work.

In other news, I am finding new and unique ways to oversleep, which very much NOT helped by the recent streak of fire alarms here in the dorm. We've had something like three in the last two weeks... which brings the total for this quarter, I belive, up to five. I could be a bit off on that count... but it's close enough, damn it. I really hate being woken up by the blasted things, especially on nights when I have to get up early.

Also, I am pissed off because I have work at 7am tomorrow morning. Wah. Thursday is normally a "sleep-in" day for me (read: I only have to get up at 7:30 instead of 6:30). Argh.

I'm so damned tired. Need to go to bed early tonight.

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[onefishjyuufish.livejournal.com]

Interviews~! :3 Slacker~ ;3

[narsilion.livejournal.com]

YAY! would love to get together! Possibly Sunday works for me, let me know if it still works for you later in the week, or if you'll have too much
homework/etc going on. Don't want to stress you!
WTF! 5 fire alarms this quarter???
Isn't that a new record?
My back is FINALLY starting to feel a little
better, still sore, but definately more managable
Went and saw the Passion of the Christ last night, still not quite sure exactly what I think.
But it was very well done. The man that played Christ was DEFINATELY good looking, and the woman that played Satan was cool.

[scourgeotheseas.livejournal.com]

A woman played Satan? Where does that get specified in the New Testament?

[rivendellrose.livejournal.com]

Because that's the most recent "ooo, I'm doing something avant-garde with the Bible" cliche.

[rivendellrose.livejournal.com]

Hmm... I would have thought you'd not want to put up with all the gore and violence in that movie. The latest NPR review I heard referred to it as the "Jesus Chainsaw Massacre" and "a two-hour long snuff film." Not to mention commenting that Jesus at the end of the film reminded him of the Terminator "going out to spread the bloody word."

Honestly, I'm interested to hear what you think - I just have yet to hear anything good about it except third hand from people I don't know.

[rivendellrose.livejournal.com]

Yes, I know.... I am a slacker of the highest calibre. But it's hard to come up with questions for all you people!

[narsilion.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I know, not exactly New Testament, but actually, she played the part really well CREEPY, but also an attractive woman in an odd way. I thought the way she portrayed Satan was
a really good part of the story.

[narsilion.livejournal.com]

Debated quite a while, and even as I was walking into the theater to see it, was not quite sure I
wanted to be there. It turns out though, that I actually AM getting better, not QUITE as squeamish as I used to be, have been trying to work on it.
I didn't feel that it was "Jesus Chainsaw Massacre" although it did have some moments.
For me, being a Christian and believing that the torture and crucifiction did happen,
it was very powerful for me to see someone's
opinion of the horror that Jesus went through, the betrayals broke my heart, even you know they are coming, and the conflicts that went through many of the characters was so well acted.It was, again at the risk of repeating myself-powerful,
and yes, sometimes, I felt it was above and beyond. I am however glad that I went to see it,
even though I felt a little nauseous as I was leaving the theater. Overall, I thought it was wonderful, wonderful acting. Just my humble opinion though.

[rivendellrose.livejournal.com]

Interesting. Most of the reviews that I've heard on NPR and elsewhere have said that it focused WAY too much on the torture - to the point that it became the point of the whole thing, as opposed to any sort of message of hope or redemption.

Maybe that's just the opinion of jaded critics, or of people who don't "get" the story, but I'd think that if it was really well done it would be the kind of story that anyone could appreciate.

Ah, one other thing - the reviewers that I've heard have talked a lot about how badly the Jews are portrayed in this movie - what did you think? To the extent, according to one reviewer, that Pontius Pilate is portrayed as a compassionate soul *forced* into the execution by the vicious, plotting rabbis. Needless to say, there's been a lot of concern for this giving anti-Semites new fuel and focus.... Peter David, I know, has been furious, as well as several others I've heard or read.

[narsilion.livejournal.com]

Since I don't know how to edit a reply, I guess I just have to reply to my reply.
There were some REALLY horrific and horribly
cruel people in this movie (I guess that's a big fat DUH, but I forgot to put that in the reply, so I wanted to add it. Why do there have to be people like that in the world (yes I know it was a movie, but there ARE people like that, it makes me so....I can't even come up with a word)

[narsilion.livejournal.com]

Well, yes the Rabbi's were portrayed badly in this movie, but that's the way it reads in the Bible also. I didn't feel it was Anti-semetic
because there were many Jews potrayed in the movie crying, and begging for the Romans not to carry out the crucifiction. Pontius Pilate is portrayed semi-compassionate to Jesus's plight,
didn't feel he had done anything which deserved
what the Rabbi's and some of the Jews were calling for, which obviously was crucifiction.
He sent them(the Rabbi's and Jesus) to King Herod
so that he would not need to make the decision,
he did not want to be caught between Ceasar, who wanted his death and war, and his wife, who felt
that Jesus was a profit and that he should be saved, he did end up however making the decision
because Herod would not and he was being threatened with death. (this BTW is the way it reads in my Bible also).
I have talked with many of the Jewish people that we clean for, though and the majority of
them are offended deeply and feel it IS anti-semetic.(I do have to point out though, that none of them have yet seen the movie, nor do most of them want to).
I feel it's just Mel Gibson's view of what happened, he shelled out his own money, and I guess I feel like he has as much of a right to put a movie out there a anyone else.
There are alot of movies of many different kinds
out there that offend people, and I guess my feeling is, if you think it's offensive-DON"T
go see it. Again, just my humble opinion, hope no one is offended or hurt.

[narsilion.livejournal.com]

I don't feel that the opinions you heard were necessarily "jaded critics" or people who didn't
understand the story, but the story IS about the last 12 hours of his life, which were almost all torture. In my view there are many back-flashes to some
uplifting and beautiful scenes, Jesus talking with his deciples, when he saves (I forget the woman's name) who is being stoned to death,
some beautiful scenes with him just enjoying
himself and loving life, but they are things he is flashing back to during the times of torture.
I thought that the ending scene of the rock being moved away from his grave, and him staring
out toward the world, was beautiful, but I suppose others could see it differently, as with the whole movie.

[rivendellrose.livejournal.com]

I agree that it's his movie and he can do what the hell he wants with it - I'm all about free speech. I'm also all about the right for free speech right back *at* whatever free speech other people are expressing.

That said, I've heard that Pontius Pilate is only portrayed that way in *some* of the gospels - specifically the ones that were written during a time when the Christians were trying to convert the Roman empire to their side. And I've also heard that historians have pretty good proof that he was a total bastard who crucified *tons* of people to keep order in his realm. So... it kind of strikes me badly.

I've also heard that Mel Gibson referred to people who didn't like his movie as the "dupes" or "servants of Satan." Granted, I don't have the exact quote from him, but I sort of trust NPR's film critic. And if he did say that, it's just NOT okay by me.

Now, I will admit that I'm firmly in the camp of the people who bitch about this movie despite staunchly refusing to see it. I also wouldn't really want to see it even if *everyone* was going off about how wonderful it was. Plus, when I hear crappy reviews of a movie and generally hear that it's a pointless gore-fest, it just doesn't make me want to see that movie.

....

All of that said, I've heard that Hidalgo is out in theaters now - YAY!!!!!!!

[rivendellrose.livejournal.com]

I suppose it really does all come down to "do you feel that this story is an uplifting one, or no?"

Because for me, and apparently for those reviewers I've heard, the answer is no. I don't feel it's uplifting to watch a man get tortured to death, even if he is the son of god and is going to come back and give redemption. I just don't feel it, and I never have. So it's probably pointless for me to go on about all of this.

It's also probably a huge matter of how I've had all this painted for me already - I've heard so many interpretations of these scenes that were bad that now I have them in my mind. You mention the scenes of happier times in his life, and I remember the reviewer commenting bitterly about how they showed Christ as a child being hugged by Mary.... as she watched him get spikes nailed through his hands. From the way it was painted to me by the reviewer, I got a *very* bad image of the effect in my mind, and maybe that wasn't accurate. I don't know.

And it doesn't make a huge difference, I suppose, since I really don't want to see the movie anyway. I guess I'm just in a debate-y mood tonight.

[narsilion.livejournal.com]

Oh Boy, if he is going around calling people who don't like his movie names, what is this-preschool?? What a jerk!
I do agree with you that you would probably NOT
enjoy this movie.

[narsilion.livejournal.com]

;D