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rivendellroseIn other news, we have just seen our sixth full episode (not counting the miniseries/pilot) of BSG, and OMG this show is going to be the death of me. Spoilers through "Litmus" (1x06) under the cut!
Where we stand right now in the Characters I Love stakes:
Starbuck: is love. In "Acts of Contrition" she tells the newbie pilots that her call-sign may be Starbuck, but to them she is God. Ivanova, is that you? Reborn in a new but almost equally bad-ass form, and still having absolute shit for luck with relationships? Why yes, I think it might be. She brought back a Cylon ship! By getting in and working it from the inside (of its guts, because apparently they HAVE GUTS? OH MY GOD, WHY? Why do the robot-ships have GUTS?
Apollo: is damned charming, and I wish I didn't adore him as much as I do. But I do. The stupid grinning-back-when-he-grins has commenced. That was the first sign of trouble with Sheridan, too. Damned puppy types.
Daddy!Adama: is adorably bad-ass. I love his father-daughter relationship with Starbuck, his totally messed-up father-son relationship with Apollo, and the way he totally pwned the ass-hat sergeant running the Cylon-collusion witch-hunt in "Litmus."
Tyrell: finally got his shit together at the end of "Litmus," and therefore has redeemed himself from the eternal ire he was facing about the middle of the episode. Seriously, I was about ready to smack him when Cute Random Baby-Officer took the fall for him.
Boomer: is such a cute little Cylon. ♥ And she's totally going to have Tyrell's guts for garters at some point, for telling her they're through. Bless.
Gaius: freaking amuses the hell out of me. I swear, every time he gets that bug-eyed OH SHIT look going, I cackle uncontrollably. I can't decide if I love him, love to hate him, or just love to watch him suffer because he's so damned hilarious when he's panicking, but watching him wriggle around like a little worm on a hook just delights me.
Speaking of - Gaius' Mental!Six: is a bit jealous of Starbuck, no? I think she is. She doesn't want some other bad-ass blonde horning in on her wriggly little worm of a man.
Helo: OH. MY. GOD. Somebody please explain to me why I am so fucking enchanted by this man - please? I remembered (a few minutes into "33," I believe, although in reality it may have just been in the pilot) that it was pretty much his situation that made me go "Oh god, I can't keep watching this show!" the first time. I don't know what it is (...okay, possibly the fact that he's snarky and gallant and pretty much the first thing he ever did on the show was to give up his seat for a civilian and walk to his own almost-certain death with amazing aplomb, ARGH), but I am a bundle of raw nerves and insanity every time we get back to his plot. And Boomer2. Oh, Boomer2. You are going to fuck him over so hardcore, aren't you?
Speaking of which, Boomer2: so totally just got her ass handed to her in a gift-wrapped package by Six, in "Litmus." Daaaamn. I'm just saying - there's a line between beating your friend up for tactical purposes and just whaling on them for the hell of it, and it looked awfully to me like Six was dancing all over that line, and having way too much fun at it. I know they had to make it look real, but... daaaamn.
Tighe: occasionally useful, but still an asshat. He's damned lucky Daddy!Adama likes him, 'cause nobody else seems to.
Roslin: is awesome. Not a hell of a lot else to say, but I very much like her.
Billy: The Boy is oddly fond of him. I... kind of don't care too much. He's cute, but I have too many other people I'm worried about to be too concerned over him. I do like Dualla (sp?) though. And also Calli, who reminds me very much of Kaylee (Firefly)... and not just because of the names.
Theories!
1. A bet has been made. The Boy has placed his bet that Daddy!Adama will be dead by the end of this season. I call shenanigans. He says it's the Mufasa syndrome, that he clearly needs to die so that Apollo can become the big hero. I say it's not that kind of show, and, while he may very well die, it will not be until at least a few more seasons in. You are all witnesses. :P
2. I believe that Horrible Things will happen to Helo. I'm not sure if he will die or if he will simply suffer so much that he'll wish he's dead, but things are looking very Not Good for him at the moment, and it's driving me kind of nuts. The Boy says not to worry, he's being set up to figure out what's going on with Boomer2, possibly get ditched by her in a "you've served your purpose and now you're useless to me" way, and end up somehow starting a resistance on Caprica. I contend that this would be very short-sighted thinking on the Cylons' part, if they were to let him figure out and/or ditch/kill him while he could still be useful to them in some way. They do not strike me as wasteful adversaries. They strike me as the "keep him around, he might be handy in some way" types. Either way, it is my belief that things will end badly for Helo. And also that I will probably cry.
3. The Boy contends that Helo is going to be our G'Kar-type character. I said that in order for this to work, he would need to be slightly more of a jerk to begin with, and pointed to Tighe as the obvious choice. Then I remembered![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
kungfuwaynewho's icon that I briefly glimpsed a few days ago, and laughed a lot. Not so much a theory as a Funny Thing That Happened, but it goes along with the theory, so I thought I'd throw it in.
Other Random Funny Things:
During "You Can't Go Home," a lot of hilarious things happened and/or occurred to me, but primary in my mind right now is the bit where Helo leaves Boomer2 downstairs in the bunker and goes to make breakfast. "This can't end well," says The Boy. "Agreed," say I - "This is entirely too cheery and domestic for this show." Just then, a Cylon shows up. Helo hides... but he has already put something that looked awfully like pop-tarts into the toaster. The Cylon(Toaster) cranks around the kitchen, looking for him. The toaster... cooks. The toaster... burns, and rats out Helo to the Toaster. He was betrayed to the Toasters, by the toaster. I don't know how to properly explain in text how funny this was to me, but I still find it hilarious.
Daddy!Adama builds model ships. This is at once faintly cliche and one of the most charming things ever.
Oh my god, Roslin only had ONE BOOK WITH HER. THIS IS MY IDEA OF HELL. I must now resist the temptation to pack a dozen books with me on the way to Vegas, just in case we are marooned or crash or are invaded by the Cylons, and I end up with ONLY ONE BOOK. o_O
In "Litmus" - Dude, for crying out loud. Lemme see. Court martial for screwing around with another officer... or charged with aiding and abetting the Cylons. HANG ON, LET ME THINK WHICH IS MORE SERIOUS. WTF, Tyrell. WTF.
I'm not sure what the hell that was that Starbuck used to mark the bottom of the Cylon ship she managed to commandeer, but that was adorable. More adorable than that was Apollo's comment to the effect that it was "definitely her - that thing flies with attitude." Yes, dear. Your other first sign should have been how easily she pwned you. ♥
I'm sure there was more, but I've forgotten it now - we're going through this all very quickly, but it's sooo much fun (and also soooo much agony) that I can't make myself stop. Although, of course, we will not be watching any while in Vegas, so... that's something, I guess. Anyway. Thank you for letting me flail at you. ♥
Where we stand right now in the Characters I Love stakes:
Starbuck: is love. In "Acts of Contrition" she tells the newbie pilots that her call-sign may be Starbuck, but to them she is God. Ivanova, is that you? Reborn in a new but almost equally bad-ass form, and still having absolute shit for luck with relationships? Why yes, I think it might be. She brought back a Cylon ship! By getting in and working it from the inside (of its guts, because apparently they HAVE GUTS? OH MY GOD, WHY? Why do the robot-ships have GUTS?
Apollo: is damned charming, and I wish I didn't adore him as much as I do. But I do. The stupid grinning-back-when-he-grins has commenced. That was the first sign of trouble with Sheridan, too. Damned puppy types.
Daddy!Adama: is adorably bad-ass. I love his father-daughter relationship with Starbuck, his totally messed-up father-son relationship with Apollo, and the way he totally pwned the ass-hat sergeant running the Cylon-collusion witch-hunt in "Litmus."
Tyrell: finally got his shit together at the end of "Litmus," and therefore has redeemed himself from the eternal ire he was facing about the middle of the episode. Seriously, I was about ready to smack him when Cute Random Baby-Officer took the fall for him.
Boomer: is such a cute little Cylon. ♥ And she's totally going to have Tyrell's guts for garters at some point, for telling her they're through. Bless.
Gaius: freaking amuses the hell out of me. I swear, every time he gets that bug-eyed OH SHIT look going, I cackle uncontrollably. I can't decide if I love him, love to hate him, or just love to watch him suffer because he's so damned hilarious when he's panicking, but watching him wriggle around like a little worm on a hook just delights me.
Speaking of - Gaius' Mental!Six: is a bit jealous of Starbuck, no? I think she is. She doesn't want some other bad-ass blonde horning in on her wriggly little worm of a man.
Helo: OH. MY. GOD. Somebody please explain to me why I am so fucking enchanted by this man - please? I remembered (a few minutes into "33," I believe, although in reality it may have just been in the pilot) that it was pretty much his situation that made me go "Oh god, I can't keep watching this show!" the first time. I don't know what it is (...okay, possibly the fact that he's snarky and gallant and pretty much the first thing he ever did on the show was to give up his seat for a civilian and walk to his own almost-certain death with amazing aplomb, ARGH), but I am a bundle of raw nerves and insanity every time we get back to his plot. And Boomer2. Oh, Boomer2. You are going to fuck him over so hardcore, aren't you?
Speaking of which, Boomer2: so totally just got her ass handed to her in a gift-wrapped package by Six, in "Litmus." Daaaamn. I'm just saying - there's a line between beating your friend up for tactical purposes and just whaling on them for the hell of it, and it looked awfully to me like Six was dancing all over that line, and having way too much fun at it. I know they had to make it look real, but... daaaamn.
Tighe: occasionally useful, but still an asshat. He's damned lucky Daddy!Adama likes him, 'cause nobody else seems to.
Roslin: is awesome. Not a hell of a lot else to say, but I very much like her.
Billy: The Boy is oddly fond of him. I... kind of don't care too much. He's cute, but I have too many other people I'm worried about to be too concerned over him. I do like Dualla (sp?) though. And also Calli, who reminds me very much of Kaylee (Firefly)... and not just because of the names.
Theories!
1. A bet has been made. The Boy has placed his bet that Daddy!Adama will be dead by the end of this season. I call shenanigans. He says it's the Mufasa syndrome, that he clearly needs to die so that Apollo can become the big hero. I say it's not that kind of show, and, while he may very well die, it will not be until at least a few more seasons in. You are all witnesses. :P
2. I believe that Horrible Things will happen to Helo. I'm not sure if he will die or if he will simply suffer so much that he'll wish he's dead, but things are looking very Not Good for him at the moment, and it's driving me kind of nuts. The Boy says not to worry, he's being set up to figure out what's going on with Boomer2, possibly get ditched by her in a "you've served your purpose and now you're useless to me" way, and end up somehow starting a resistance on Caprica. I contend that this would be very short-sighted thinking on the Cylons' part, if they were to let him figure out and/or ditch/kill him while he could still be useful to them in some way. They do not strike me as wasteful adversaries. They strike me as the "keep him around, he might be handy in some way" types. Either way, it is my belief that things will end badly for Helo. And also that I will probably cry.
3. The Boy contends that Helo is going to be our G'Kar-type character. I said that in order for this to work, he would need to be slightly more of a jerk to begin with, and pointed to Tighe as the obvious choice. Then I remembered
kungfuwaynewho's icon that I briefly glimpsed a few days ago, and laughed a lot. Not so much a theory as a Funny Thing That Happened, but it goes along with the theory, so I thought I'd throw it in.Other Random Funny Things:
During "You Can't Go Home," a lot of hilarious things happened and/or occurred to me, but primary in my mind right now is the bit where Helo leaves Boomer2 downstairs in the bunker and goes to make breakfast. "This can't end well," says The Boy. "Agreed," say I - "This is entirely too cheery and domestic for this show." Just then, a Cylon shows up. Helo hides... but he has already put something that looked awfully like pop-tarts into the toaster. The Cylon(Toaster) cranks around the kitchen, looking for him. The toaster... cooks. The toaster... burns, and rats out Helo to the Toaster. He was betrayed to the Toasters, by the toaster. I don't know how to properly explain in text how funny this was to me, but I still find it hilarious.
Daddy!Adama builds model ships. This is at once faintly cliche and one of the most charming things ever.
Oh my god, Roslin only had ONE BOOK WITH HER. THIS IS MY IDEA OF HELL. I must now resist the temptation to pack a dozen books with me on the way to Vegas, just in case we are marooned or crash or are invaded by the Cylons, and I end up with ONLY ONE BOOK. o_O
In "Litmus" - Dude, for crying out loud. Lemme see. Court martial for screwing around with another officer... or charged with aiding and abetting the Cylons. HANG ON, LET ME THINK WHICH IS MORE SERIOUS. WTF, Tyrell. WTF.
I'm not sure what the hell that was that Starbuck used to mark the bottom of the Cylon ship she managed to commandeer, but that was adorable. More adorable than that was Apollo's comment to the effect that it was "definitely her - that thing flies with attitude." Yes, dear. Your other first sign should have been how easily she pwned you. ♥
I'm sure there was more, but I've forgotten it now - we're going through this all very quickly, but it's sooo much fun (and also soooo much agony) that I can't make myself stop. Although, of course, we will not be watching any while in Vegas, so... that's something, I guess. Anyway. Thank you for letting me flail at you. ♥
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Date: 2010-09-22 06:31 am (UTC)The stupid grinning-back-when-he-grins has commenced.
Gosh, thanks. I've managed to get through life with only a vague passing affection for Apollo, but no, you had to compare him to Sheridan! I have a stupid inexplicable weakness for Sheridan, and in consequence, I now like Apollo at least fifty times more.
I LOVE YOUR THEORIES. Keep track of them; you will probably want to come back later and laugh, either ruefully or in relief. Also, the Tigh-as-G'Kar-figure made me shriek with glee, at least in part for visual reasons that I assume you know re: the icon you saw. (And either way, I want Tigh and G'Kar to hang out now! I ... guess they could go out drinking together? God, what a horrible idea. :D)
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Date: 2010-09-22 06:54 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-09-22 11:40 am (UTC)I love everything you wrote. No desire to confirm or deny a thing, or do that knowing chuckle thing. I just adore seeing someone go on this ride for the first time.
I'm not sure what the hell that was that Starbuck used to mark the bottom of the Cylon ship she managed to commandeer, but that was adorable.
That was her tape! That she used to tape up her knee. I just could never help but wonder how much time she spent putting her name on the bottom - and so perfectly, too! - instead of making the Raider work when she was, y'know, running out of air.
That episode, BTW, is when I knew I was going to looooove the show. That they had her crashland on an alien moon and it wasn't just some funnily-shot Earth. She couldn't breathe the air and it was super dangerous - just like a real alien planet! I couldn't really begrudge them shooting every planet with Earth amounts of gravity, but I loved that they made attempts to make hostile environments instead of, say, original BSG's casino or western planets.
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Date: 2010-09-22 11:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-22 12:44 pm (UTC)Now drop and give me twenty!
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Date: 2010-09-22 04:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-22 02:34 pm (UTC)Hahaha. If only! I don't think this should spoil you, since I remember it being evident by S1, but Starbuck annoyed the everliving shit out of me. I think it was because she was so damn cocky all the time, and because she was so much more self-destructive than Ivanova, rather than just having bad luck. (Actually, I kinda think she reminds me more of Garibaldi for that aspect.)
Hmmm...perhaps the Sheridan puppiness is why I also couldn't stand Apollo!
However, Roslin = LOVE. Ahhhhh, I loved her so much. For various reasons, I want her and Delenn to hang out. Also, Billy: ♥ ♥.
And yes, you should be worried for everyone.
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Date: 2010-09-22 04:43 pm (UTC)She was definitely self-destructive, but in ways I actually could understand. Usually, when characters get like that, I just roll my eyes and tell them to put their big girl panties on. (Yes, I am looking at you, Garibaldi.) But I always felt for Starbuck so much.
For various reasons, I want her and Delenn to hang out.
God, I know, right? I just started reading a BSG/B5 crossover, and if Delenn and Roslin don't spend a ton of quality time together I will be very put out.
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Date: 2010-09-22 08:30 pm (UTC)Yeah, I noticed that as well. There really is no middle ground with her.
I just started reading a BSG/B5 crossover
Is it this one? I found it not that long ago and hope the writer finishes it.
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Date: 2010-09-22 08:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-22 04:13 pm (UTC)Somebody please explain to me why I am so fucking enchanted by this man - please?
Not spoilery, but Helo is probably the sole good, moral, SANE man on that show. He goes through some heart-wrenching things and is betrayed by the people he trusts most, but he comes out of it just as good and moral as he ever was. That doesn't happen to everyone who gets broken on this show. He's everyone's conscience, and it's so enchanting because that type of character is usually a woman, not a boyish, jock of a pilot. I cannot WAIT until you hit the Caprica arc with him and another character (not "Boomer2" and gah, I keep wanting to use her name that she gets in S3).
Either way, it is my belief that things will end badly for Helo.
Interesting. I won't say anything more, but that's really interesting.
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Date: 2010-09-22 08:00 pm (UTC)*wink*
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Date: 2010-09-24 03:42 am (UTC)