meme from muccamukk

[rivendellrose]

Comment with one of my fandoms, and I'll tell you:

the character I least understand
interactions I enjoyed the most
the character who scares me the most
the character who is mostly like me
hottest looks character
one thing I dislike about my fave character
one thing I like about my hated character
a quote or scene that haunts me
a death that left me indifferent
a character I wish died but didn’t
my ship that never sailed

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[ironymaiden]

B5

[rivendellrose]

(OMG, Buffy musical icon! Now I'm going to have that song stuck in my head all afternoon! XD)

the character I least understand - I interpret this as "the one I can't ever seem to write because he just doesn't fit in my head," and that's Garibaldi.

interactions I enjoyed the most - Delenn and Lennier, Londo and G'Kar, Delenn and Londo.

the character who scares me the most - Cartagia, I think. Or, if I had to pick out of the main cast, Londo - because his fall was so very realistic and horrible.

the character who is mostly like me - Oh, jeez. B5 is all Big Characters with Big Personalities. In reality I'm probably most like Corwin - the quiet dude who gets stuff done and is mostly ignored by everyone.

hottest looks character - I am strange, so I prefer Delenn to everyone, and I prefer her before she became half human.

one thing I dislike about my fave character - This is petty, but I really hated the heavy-handed plot device where supposedly Delenn was going to just knuckle under and not be with Sheridan anymore if that was what her clan decided based on the Dreaming. Sure, she's this quiet, gentle, deeply spiritual priestess and Minbari are all about following the rules, but this is the woman who prosecuted a brutal genocidal war of revenge because someone accidentally killed her teacher, and who consistently proved that she could wrap the whole universe, let alone her own species, around her little finger. No way she'd have caved to that if she wanted him.

one thing I like about my hated character - Well, my most hated character is Byron, so... I liked that he made Bester angry. Because angry Bester was awesome.

a quote or scene that haunts me - One of my favorite scenes is the end of "Legacies," written by the great DC Fontana, when we find out that Delenn orchestrated the whole mystery behind the main plot of the episode for her own purposes (and, in doing so, risked starting another war between the Humans and the Warrior caste), threatens to destroy Neroon's clan if he doesn't go along with her story, and then insisted on Neroon abasing himself to Sinclair. It all turns out well in the end, of course, but it's one of the best moments for Delenn playing total hardball with everything, and it was where I really fell in love with her character.

a death that left me indifferent - Hmm. Keffer.

a character I wish died but didn’t - Garibaldi's eventual wife, Elise. I really didn't like that whole plotline.

my ship that never sailed - Delenn/Neroon. I'm convinced they had a thing in the distant past, before the war with the Humans. Whoops! If we're talking about that thing I could have shipped but never pursued, I gueeeeeessss I'd have to say that I had a vague pull at one time to write a bit of Londo and Delenn together, but I never did. The actors had lovely chemistry, and that made it a momentary temptation.

[nenya_kanadka]

Well, both me and Mucca think Delenn was hotter as a full Minbari (not that Mira isn't goddamn smokin' on her own), so you're certainly not alone there.

And I read "ship that didn't sail" the way you initially did. ("Ship that never became canon" or maybe "never got hueg in fandom", idk.)

[muccamukk]

Minbari Delenn is the hottest Delenn for sure.

[rivendellrose]

I'm glad I'm not alone on this. ♥

[rivendellrose]

Oh, boy, and that icon definitely shows that off, too... XD

[nenya_kanadka]

Torn between further Minbari Delenn hotness and further Mira Furlan hotness, I've chosen to go with this one. But. Yes. 😍😍😍

[rivendellrose]

...Wait, is that Mira? It doesn't look like her! I think the lighting is screwing me up and making it hard to recognize her. But DAMN. ♥♥♥

[nenya_kanadka]

It is her!



Back in her sexy ingenue days or whatever, I guess. :D <3

[rivendellrose]

Okay, yes, now I can definitely see it. ♥ And am saving it, because LOVE.

[nenya_kanadka]

Yeah I got it off another B5 fan's LJ or DW (congo/cartography I think?) and now I can't find a larger version of it online. BUT SO PRETTY ~swoon, etc~ :D

[gaslightgallows]

Enterprise :D

[rivendellrose]

With the caveat that I've seen less than half the episodes...

the character I least understand - I actually saw more of the pilot in the outtakes than I think I did in the actual episodes I watched, and I can't even remember his name, poor bastard, so it's gotta be him. Merriweather? Is that right, or am I doing a bizarre free association thing?

interactions I enjoyed the most - I wish I could give an answer that will surprise you, but the real answer, of course, is Archer and Shran. I've shipped them since a decade before I watched the show, and that will probably never change.

the character who scares me the most - .........sure, let's pretend something on ENT could be genuinely frightening. How about the Vulcans who wanted to ally with the Romulans? That would have been an interesting AU direction.

the character who is mostly like me - Hoshi. From what little I've seen of her, I recognize a kindred spirit.

hottest looks character - Will anyone in creation be surprised if I say Shran?

one thing I dislike about my fave character - Shran often comes across as a bit sexist, which sucks.

one thing I like about my hated character - I don't think I've seen enough to hate anyone. Huh.

a quote or scene that haunts me - I am a big romantic marshmallow, so the first thing I think of is Shran telling Jhamel about the planets he's been to. She's so in awe, and he... hardly ever gets to use that poetic side of his voice. ♥

a death that left me indifferent - Trip, in the disastrous finale. The whole thing was a mess, but that was a particularly weird layer on the wtf-cake.

a character I wish died but didn’t - Shran's rape-threatening lieutenant from the first episode with the Andorians. I have a nice little headcanon where he got demoted and sent off to a garbage scow.

my ship that never sailed - I could see going for T'Pol/Shran, but (as previously mentioned) my heart was already given to another pairing.

[gaslightgallows]

Mayweather. Travis, yeah, he's the helmsman. He doesn't really ever have much to do, so I'm not surprised you aren't sure what to do with him.

Hoshi, however, is definitely very much like you. ♥

And I know I've said this before, but I soverymuch approve of your headcanon about Tholos and the garbage scow. Disgusting little cockroach.

[muccamukk]

Doctor Who.

[rivendellrose]

Oh no, I got rid of all my Dalek icons in my last clean-out! Tea will have to suffice.

the character I least understand - I'm gonna say Six. I haven't tried hard, but the serials I've seen of him were kind of a big wtf.

interactions I enjoyed the most - I miss Nine/everyone. Nine and the whole damned universe was my favorite interaction. :P

the character who scares me the most - Oh, boy, umm...

the character who is mostly like me - Martha Jones or Romana II.

hottest looks character - Even tie between Martha and Nine.

one thing I dislike about my fave character - Does "only having one season with him" count? (In case it doesn't: I don't like Rose that much. Her and Nine AND Jack were fun, but her alone... eh.)

one thing I like about my hated character - There are so few male companions, so I guess Adric being one was... something?

a quote or scene that haunts me - The scene with Nine and Margaret the Slitheen, where they have dinner and he understands her far too well. Boy did he know how to play a character who had layers.

a death that left me indifferent - By the time Ten died, I was ready for him to go. I loved the character, loved the energy David Tennant brought to him, but boy was I done with Russell T. Freaking Davies and his writing tics by that point, and if losing Ten meant him going away, too, then so be it. ...Of course, then I survived a grand total of one season of Moffat's tenure before feeling done with the whole dang show. Out of the frying pan, into the fire...

a character I wish died but didn’t - For a nominal kids' show, DW kills a lot of its characters! I actually can't think of one I wished had died who didn't right now.

my ship that never sailed - I recall wanting to write Martha/Nine at one point, but I never quite found a way to make it work. Mostly it would have been a "Look how much NINE would have appreciated Martha" kind of thing.

[muccamukk]

I would have said Six as well, until the radio plays with him and Evelyn where he SHINES. I've never done such a 180 on a character. (Also, this happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00T_ft5RCdc).

That was pretty much my exact experience with Ten. I love you! Go away!

[rivendellrose]

I've heard some of the radio plays with Six and Evelyn, and I was very impressed by them! Most were on a long road trip to Gallifrey Con several years ago, so I don't actually remember them very well anymore, but I did like him better after that. And Colin Baker is actually the only Doctor I've met, at the same con, so there's that, too.

Oh my, that audio. Yes, that is adorable. ♥

Oh, Ten. When he was good, he was so good, but when he was bad, lord did I want to shake the writers until their brains fell out of their ears. I never blamed Tennant one bit, but... the writers. Argh.

[mrs260]

DS9! :)

[rivendellrose]

That's... weirdly hard to answer, on some of these, because my feelings on a lot of things have changed (and then often changed back) so much over the many years I've loved DS9. But I shall try!

the character I least understand - Honestly, after as many times as I've watched this show, I think I understand everybody except possibly some of the writers. :P I can't even use my usual interpretation of this as "character I can't write," because I feel like I could probably hit just about everybody correctly, with the exception of the fact that I'm bad at writing kids.

interactions I enjoyed the most - This one's easy: Garak and Bashir. Their scenes are always hands-down my favorites.

the character who scares me the most - Kai Winn. She's marvelous, but she terrifies and frustrates me beyond just about all else.

the character who is mostly like me - In my teens it was Kira, in my 20s it was probably Ezri... now I think I'm back to Kira, but in the later seasons when she's a lot more settled and less explosive. ;)

hottest looks character - Tie between Kira and Bashir.

one thing I dislike about my fave character - In the pilot, Kira is so clearly intended to be Ro Laren that it makes me want to bang my head on things.

one thing I like about my hated character - It's not actually O'Brien's fault that I hate most of the episodes that focus on him. I like the character just fine, I respect the actor quite a bit... but, god, the writers only had one episode idea about O'Brien, and the used it again, and again, and again.

a quote or scene that haunts me - I'm just going to say "Far Beyond the Stars." I can't pick a single scene, that whole episode is perfection.

a death that left me indifferent - Eddington. Although I did sort of enjoy his whole Javert/Valjean delusion for how deeply he was misunderstanding the whole thing. On rewatches, I kept expecting Sisko to be like "You're not my nemesis! I have better things to do than hunt you down!"

a character I wish died but didn’t - I honestly can't think of anyone. Although I did want to wring Ezri's neck a few times in the last season, that was entirely because I wanted Jadzia back and because most of her plotlines were a little bit "eh."

my ship that never sailed - I probably could have shipped Jadzia and Bashir, if Garak wasn't so much more obviously interested, and interesting with him.

[mrs260]

I think what's extra-scary about Kai Winn is that she's closer than other Trek villains to someone you're likely to deal with in real life. And like Kai Winn, such people tend to have enough power or influence to make life difficult.

I tend to dislike O'Brien slightly. Not his character, not his storylines, more the concept of him. It's the writers' insistence on his "everyman" status that bugs me. (Let's make one of the people Mark relates to least the everyman! Annoy Mark specifically!)

[rivendellrose]

Yes, exactly! Sure, I'm likely to meet guys like Gul Dukat who think they're god's gift to women, but in reality most of them are so pathetic they're not really all that scary. (Except the one who is, unfortunately, now in the White House. And, really, at least Dukat had some style and actual charisma...) But Winn? There are so many people like that, and they always seem to manage to have way more power than they should.

And I totally agree with you about the "everyman" status that the writers push on O'Brien. Excuse you, 90s TV writers, but the troubles of a middle-aged straight white family man are your problems, not mine. Maybe that's the real, underlying reason I never liked the episodes about him. I just can't identify with him. At least Bashir was my kind of bouncy cheery nerd (and grew into my kind of cynical, tired nerd, later).

[nenya_kanadka]

Sticking my nose in to say that that's exactly what I've always said about Kai Winn. I have met her in real life! Or several human versions of her. She was damn convincing and utterly maddening, as a result. Great character, hate her guts, also feel sorry for her sometimes. Heh.

O'Brien I like sometimes, but my eyes glaze over a little more than they're supposed to, I think. Same reasons as you two have, plus that I am shallow and glom on to attractive characters more. (I do like that he and Keiko sincerely love each other, that's nice to see. But ya. Best O'Brien scenes are the ones where he's trying to calm the baby, or getting drunk & slashy with Julian.)

[rivendellrose]

That's the worst bit, that you do really feel sorry for her sometimes. She's clearly the hero of her own story, too, which all the best villains are.

On the one hand I like when O'Brien gets drunk and kind of slashy with Julian because who wouldn't? They're adorable and funny together, especially when they're drunk. But at the same time some of those scenes make me really mad, because it felt like the writers suddenly realized that Garak and Julian were way too slashy (...after 5 seasons...), so they decided, okay, let's cut their relationship down to almost nothing and replace it with this SAFE manly-but-also-slashy interaction with O'Brien, who is clearly safe because he's married.

IDK, this is not a well-thought-out grump because it's left over from my late teens and I haven't really examined it much. But I definitely have feelings there.

[nenya_kanadka]

I always thought it was kind of hilarious in a karmic way that they were like "No Julian and Garak are too slashy" and then the replacement BFF they gave him was ALSO slashy. Sorry, guys, it's just that Julian has chemistry with men, here. Ain't nothing you can do about it. :D

[rivendellrose]

They were just so much more willing to embrace it with O'Brien, it made me feel like they'd made the switch intentionally because it was less likely to raise eyebrows. Like the whole "I love Keiko, but I might love you more" thing. That just... argh. Yes, great, friends, it's important to have friends who love each other and friends totally can love each other more/differently than spouses. BUT GIVE ME MY OTP BACK.