Discovery 1x06: Lethe
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rivendellroseSpoilers. Strange thoughts about my hometown. More references to my not-so-crazy theory about our new lieutenant.
- Logic Extremists want the Vulcans to back out of the Federation... so they're blowing up Sarek on the way to a peace talk with the Klingons. I... do not understand the logic of this action.
- Why... why the fuck was the Logic Extremist giving Sarek the "live long and prosper" sign before he blew them up? That doesn't make any sense.
- I'm sorry to be That Fan, but we are not supposed to have holodecks yet. Weren't they touting how they hired a continuity editor? Did they listen to them at all?
-gaslightgallows was right, Tyler totally has a crush on Lorca. Lorca might be too straight (and also crazy) to notice, though.
- Of course Tyler hid that he got a higher score than Lorca. (Wait, does this mean he knows or just that he's being adorable?)
- Tyler is from Seattle. No, wait, Tyler is from Issaquah. OH, THIS JUST FIGURES. I have spent ages whining that there's nobody in Star Trek who's from the Pacific Northwest, let alone Seattle, let alone the tiny frickin' suburb-city that I myself am from, and we finally get someone, and he's frickin' adorable, except I'm pretty sure he's frickin' dead and what we're actually seeing is the guy who ate Philippa Georgiou. In short, I feel personally attacked.
- He meant Issaquah Valley Elementary, btw. There is no "Issaquah Elementary." At least not yet. (I bet he went to Skyline High School, the perfect bastard.)
- And for the record, yeah, saying you're from Seattle is totally what you do when you're from Issaquah and you go outside Washington State. Been there done that.
- I guess if anyone needs hometown details for fic, hit me up? I can tell you all about Front Street and Gilman Village and Piccadilly Place and where the pool is and oh god this is bizarre.
- Haha, Lorca says he wants a security officer who "fights like a Klingon." Boy, he's gonna feel like a dumbass for saying that at some point in the future...
- Burnham being Tilly's coach is adorable, and I love them both. I also kind of want that DISCO t-shirt.
- It's... kind of weird that the computer now says approving things about your food choices? I don't know how I feel about this. It's definitely something to remember for writing fanfic, though. What does it say if you order something unhealthy, I wonder?
- ...Like, for instance, those french fries Tyler was eating? (At first I was like "why is he eating fries for breakfast?" and then I realized he was clearly on a different shift than Tilly and Burnham, unless he was doing his anachronistic holo-training with Lorca before breakfast.
- Tilly totally ships Burnham and Tyler. I... honey... bless you, but... nghgpfbl. *facepalms*
- Wow, Stamets is definitely experiencing some lingering effects from his mushroom trip, isn't he? Love all the groovy word choice, nice way to subtly/not-so-subtly let us know "by the way, he might still kind of be tripping balls." I wonder how Culber feels about this.
- Okay, question: Burnham says that she was attacked by Logic Extremists (okay, sure) at the school she was at and that's when Sarek gave her part of his katra and saved her and all. Which. I could have sworn that before we said that that was during the Klingon attack that killed her parents? It... it was Klingons who killed her parents, right, not Logic Extremists? I'm so confused right now.
- Hey, look, it's Amanda! And oh god it's Vulcan!Burnham again. Oh god I don't like Vulcan!Burnham. Eugh. Less of her, please. I love Burnham when she has feelings, I so don't like her when she's doing full-on Vulcan, though.
- Poor Saru, he was barely in this episode!
- Oh look, people were right that Admiral Kat and Lorca are former lovers. That's nice. Except how he nearly killed her because PTSD, and then she was all "you should be relieved of duty but for some reason I'm not actually going to do that right this minute" and then he was all "Hey, let's send HER to the Klingons and then she got captured and suddenly he's very concerned with checking up the chain of command and making sure we follow orders. Hey, Admiral Kat, just a thought, but maybe you should have filed the paperwork before you left, so that someone back at Starfleet would know how Lorca is totally bugfuck and should probably not be commanding the most powerful ship in the fleet because he's unstable?!
- Honestly, though, sending her off to be captured by the Klingons was way better than what I thought, which was that he was going to kill her right there and find some way to excuse it or hide it from his crew. Especially after Burnham saying she's glad to serve under a captain like him, which, okay, sure, you totally look like you're feeling that statement, Burnham. PS, don't trust that fucker.
- It might just be me, but I sort of feel like showing up to check on your ex who seems to be behaving in an unstable manner lately and then having sex with him and then going off on how he's changed so much he's not the man you knew... might be both cliche and also a little bit, er, disordered. Like, were you worried beforehand? If so, why did you sleep with him? If not, what about sleeping with him made you suddenly realize? Was it just the awakened-suddenly-PTSD-murder-ness?
- Ha, Tyler is so sweet and perfect that even if I hadn't run up against this theory and then put all the pieces together I'd be like "Wait, we already Tilly and Burnham AND Culber, why do we suddenly have another cinnamon roll? I AM SUSPICIOUS."
- Still working on the assumption that Tyler is a sleeper agent and therefore thinks he is the guy he seems to be. That... really just adds to my confusion on the subject of him, but it also seems a lot more likely than the idea that Voq is actually able to pretend to be a Human this well.
- "This is being Human." LIKE YOU'D KNOW, YOU FACE-EATING SON OF A TARG. Damn that's a good anxiety-heightening line, though. SUSPENNNNNNNNSE. Also, auuuuugh, did you personally kill the real Lt. Tyler, or did L'Rell do that for you?
- Burnham I love you but could you not maybe have had this realization about how your shitty foster father is never going to live up to your emotional needs while you were on the Shenzhou? I feel like Georgiou would have been very proud of this development.
- "We've met." NO KIDDING, SHOW. Do you think you might be laying it on a little bit thick, here, guys? AND YET I AM SO INVESTED.
Next week: a classic "stuck in a loop" episode! And also Tyler and Burnham kissing. Oh god, I am so conflicted. By which I mean "yay cute characters together WAIT OH GOD NO STOP DON'T DO THAT I NEED BRAIN BLEACH AND MOUTHWASH."
- Logic Extremists want the Vulcans to back out of the Federation... so they're blowing up Sarek on the way to a peace talk with the Klingons. I... do not understand the logic of this action.
- Why... why the fuck was the Logic Extremist giving Sarek the "live long and prosper" sign before he blew them up? That doesn't make any sense.
- I'm sorry to be That Fan, but we are not supposed to have holodecks yet. Weren't they touting how they hired a continuity editor? Did they listen to them at all?
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gaslightgallows was right, Tyler totally has a crush on Lorca. Lorca might be too straight (and also crazy) to notice, though. - Of course Tyler hid that he got a higher score than Lorca. (Wait, does this mean he knows or just that he's being adorable?)
- Tyler is from Seattle. No, wait, Tyler is from Issaquah. OH, THIS JUST FIGURES. I have spent ages whining that there's nobody in Star Trek who's from the Pacific Northwest, let alone Seattle, let alone the tiny frickin' suburb-city that I myself am from, and we finally get someone, and he's frickin' adorable, except I'm pretty sure he's frickin' dead and what we're actually seeing is the guy who ate Philippa Georgiou. In short, I feel personally attacked.
- He meant Issaquah Valley Elementary, btw. There is no "Issaquah Elementary." At least not yet. (I bet he went to Skyline High School, the perfect bastard.)
- And for the record, yeah, saying you're from Seattle is totally what you do when you're from Issaquah and you go outside Washington State. Been there done that.
- I guess if anyone needs hometown details for fic, hit me up? I can tell you all about Front Street and Gilman Village and Piccadilly Place and where the pool is and oh god this is bizarre.
- Haha, Lorca says he wants a security officer who "fights like a Klingon." Boy, he's gonna feel like a dumbass for saying that at some point in the future...
- Burnham being Tilly's coach is adorable, and I love them both. I also kind of want that DISCO t-shirt.
- It's... kind of weird that the computer now says approving things about your food choices? I don't know how I feel about this. It's definitely something to remember for writing fanfic, though. What does it say if you order something unhealthy, I wonder?
- ...Like, for instance, those french fries Tyler was eating? (At first I was like "why is he eating fries for breakfast?" and then I realized he was clearly on a different shift than Tilly and Burnham, unless he was doing his anachronistic holo-training with Lorca before breakfast.
- Tilly totally ships Burnham and Tyler. I... honey... bless you, but... nghgpfbl. *facepalms*
- Wow, Stamets is definitely experiencing some lingering effects from his mushroom trip, isn't he? Love all the groovy word choice, nice way to subtly/not-so-subtly let us know "by the way, he might still kind of be tripping balls." I wonder how Culber feels about this.
- Okay, question: Burnham says that she was attacked by Logic Extremists (okay, sure) at the school she was at and that's when Sarek gave her part of his katra and saved her and all. Which. I could have sworn that before we said that that was during the Klingon attack that killed her parents? It... it was Klingons who killed her parents, right, not Logic Extremists? I'm so confused right now.
- Hey, look, it's Amanda! And oh god it's Vulcan!Burnham again. Oh god I don't like Vulcan!Burnham. Eugh. Less of her, please. I love Burnham when she has feelings, I so don't like her when she's doing full-on Vulcan, though.
- Poor Saru, he was barely in this episode!
- Oh look, people were right that Admiral Kat and Lorca are former lovers. That's nice. Except how he nearly killed her because PTSD, and then she was all "you should be relieved of duty but for some reason I'm not actually going to do that right this minute" and then he was all "Hey, let's send HER to the Klingons and then she got captured and suddenly he's very concerned with checking up the chain of command and making sure we follow orders. Hey, Admiral Kat, just a thought, but maybe you should have filed the paperwork before you left, so that someone back at Starfleet would know how Lorca is totally bugfuck and should probably not be commanding the most powerful ship in the fleet because he's unstable?!
- Honestly, though, sending her off to be captured by the Klingons was way better than what I thought, which was that he was going to kill her right there and find some way to excuse it or hide it from his crew. Especially after Burnham saying she's glad to serve under a captain like him, which, okay, sure, you totally look like you're feeling that statement, Burnham. PS, don't trust that fucker.
- It might just be me, but I sort of feel like showing up to check on your ex who seems to be behaving in an unstable manner lately and then having sex with him and then going off on how he's changed so much he's not the man you knew... might be both cliche and also a little bit, er, disordered. Like, were you worried beforehand? If so, why did you sleep with him? If not, what about sleeping with him made you suddenly realize? Was it just the awakened-suddenly-PTSD-murder-ness?
- Ha, Tyler is so sweet and perfect that even if I hadn't run up against this theory and then put all the pieces together I'd be like "Wait, we already Tilly and Burnham AND Culber, why do we suddenly have another cinnamon roll? I AM SUSPICIOUS."
- Still working on the assumption that Tyler is a sleeper agent and therefore thinks he is the guy he seems to be. That... really just adds to my confusion on the subject of him, but it also seems a lot more likely than the idea that Voq is actually able to pretend to be a Human this well.
- "This is being Human." LIKE YOU'D KNOW, YOU FACE-EATING SON OF A TARG. Damn that's a good anxiety-heightening line, though. SUSPENNNNNNNNSE. Also, auuuuugh, did you personally kill the real Lt. Tyler, or did L'Rell do that for you?
- Burnham I love you but could you not maybe have had this realization about how your shitty foster father is never going to live up to your emotional needs while you were on the Shenzhou? I feel like Georgiou would have been very proud of this development.
- "We've met." NO KIDDING, SHOW. Do you think you might be laying it on a little bit thick, here, guys? AND YET I AM SO INVESTED.
Next week: a classic "stuck in a loop" episode! And also Tyler and Burnham kissing. Oh god, I am so conflicted. By which I mean "yay cute characters together WAIT OH GOD NO STOP DON'T DO THAT I NEED BRAIN BLEACH AND MOUTHWASH."
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Date: 2017-10-23 04:54 am (UTC)(I did not, however, miss Tyler having a crush on Lorca.)
((I can tell you why the Admiral is behaving that way: because the dude writers, whether straight or queer, just cannot imagine a woman not falling into the manly-man arms of Jason Isaacs, when you and I know it's really not a problem for many of us to abstain.))
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Date: 2017-10-23 07:10 pm (UTC)Tyler is adorable, and he's totally crushing on both Lorca and Burnham.
I've occasionally found Jason Isaacs attractive in the past! Just not this time, because my heart belongs to Philippa Georgiou and Michael Burnham. And because I've grown out of my weird villain-loving phase, I guess. (My heart would also belong to Ash Tyler, adorable cinnamon roll, if I didn't believe the above theory that he really is too good to be true. As it is, I cannot forgive him for potentially being Voq.)
Also since we've just met, I apologize in advance for any ranting I might do or have already done about the Andorians. I love them, and I'm still a little salty that DSC has not brought them back except in weird side-references. ;)
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Date: 2017-10-23 07:41 pm (UTC)Thanks for linking! :)
And hey, no worries about rants.
Sent from my iPhone
Haven't seen it yet, but whatevs, gonna comment anyway!
Date: 2017-10-23 07:31 am (UTC)They could benefit from having a little talk with Quark.
Seriously, though, Vulcans talk a good talk about logic, but they never quite walk the walk. I've never been sure if this is because the writers aren't actually very logical, or if this is intended behavior.
I'm sorry to be That Fan, but we are not supposed to have holodecks yet. Weren't they touting how they hired a continuity editor? Did they listen to them at all?
Their continuity editor came out of the same pool as Voyager's Native American Guide.
- He meant Issaquah Valley Elementary, btw. There is no "Issaquah Elementary." At least not yet. (I bet he went to Skyline High School, the perfect bastard.)
I'm astonished they got it that accurate. We can't even get accurate information about NYC (no alleyways!) on TV and in movies, and everybody knows NYC exists!
- I guess if anyone needs hometown details for fic, hit me up? I can tell you all about Front Street and Gilman Village and Piccadilly Place and where the pool is and oh god this is bizarre.
Nah, I'd rather ask the continuity error for their thoughts.
- Haha, Lorca says he wants a security officer who "fights like a Klingon." Boy, he's gonna feel like a dumbass for saying that at some point in the future...
Do the writers think we need hints? Because pretty much the day after last week's ep aired, multiple people came to the conclusion you did and spread it all over the internets.
Now, personally, when it comes to fiction I am always slow on the uptake and never understand the hints - but I'd have to be living under a rock not to have heard everybody's theories this time!
- ...Like, for instance, those french fries Tyler was eating? (At first I was like "why is he eating fries for breakfast?" and then I realized he was clearly on a different shift than Tilly and Burnham, unless he was doing his anachronistic holo-training with Lorca before breakfast.
He's a grown man. He wants to eat fries for breakfast, why the hell not? Good source of iodine and also vitamin c.
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Date: 2017-10-23 08:42 pm (UTC)That's such a great speech. ♥
Seriously, though, Vulcans talk a good talk about logic, but they never quite walk the walk. I've never been sure if this is because the writers aren't actually very logical, or if this is intended behavior.
Yeah... I think it's at least partly that the writers are always coming at the Vulcans from the perspective of "but Humans are better." We're always the ones who turn out to be right in the end. We're not as hot-headed as the Klingons or Andorians, not as coldly logical as the Vulcans... we're the Goldilocks species. And therefore everyone else's perspectives are often a little bit tweaked so as to make them more overly wrong and us right.
Their continuity editor came out of the same pool as Voyager's Native American Guide.
Eugh, don't even suggest such a horrifying thought.
I'm astonished they got it that accurate. We can't even get accurate information about NYC (no alleyways!) on TV and in movies, and everybody knows NYC exists!
You know, I've been to NYC and I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't notice that!
Do the writers think we need hints? Because pretty much the day after last week's ep aired, multiple people came to the conclusion you did and spread it all over the internets.
My take is that they aren't hinting so much as upping the dramatic tension. We, the audience, now know this terrible thing (well, two terrible things, now that we also know Lorca decided to let Callahan remain a captive of the Klingons because he doesn't want her to relieve him of duty) that the characters don't, so it leads to all sorts of audience tension.
He's a grown man. He wants to eat fries for breakfast, why the hell not? Good source of iodine and also vitamin c.
He's a grown man who was on a starvation diet recently, too. He needs the calories! I'm just curious what the strangely sassy replicator would have to say about it -- are its comments tied in with the crew's medical records, for instance? Would it praise one person's choice (Burnham's green tea, for instance), while reminding me, for instance, that I can't handle the caffeine in that tea?
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Date: 2017-10-24 02:23 am (UTC)It is. Forget all of Picard's speeches, all of Kirk's speeches - for my money, this is the very best speech in all ST.
(Though not quite as good as the time Sisko punched out Q. If Picard had given a few less speeches and a few more punches, he would've been a lot happier. Oooh, I bet he was pissed when he heard!)
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Date: 2017-10-25 03:30 am (UTC)Whenever people bitch to me about DS9, that's my first argument. Picard spent seven years getting dicked around by Q. Then Q shows up on DS9 exactly once, Sisko decks him, and he never came back again. I think that's telling. ♥
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Date: 2017-10-25 03:57 am (UTC)No, it's not. Patrick Stewart is the best.
There's a great quote from Roger Ebert after one of the TNG movies:
Patrick Stewart, as Capt. Picard, is a wonderful actor. I know because I have seen him elsewhere. It is always said of Stewart that his strength as an actor is his ability to deliver bad dialogue with utter conviction. I say it is time to stop encouraging him. Here's an idea: Instead of giving him bad dialogue, why not give him good dialogue, and see what he can do with that? Here is a man who has played Shakespeare.
Picard is not the most interesting ST character, but I'd watch Patrick Stewart describing the action of paint drying.
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Date: 2017-10-25 04:37 am (UTC)Me too. He's a genius. And that Ebert quote is spot-on. ♥
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Date: 2017-10-23 04:02 pm (UTC)I swear, the Live Long and Prosper sign doubles as a middle finger in Vulcan culture, depending on the context. And "Logic Extremists" strike me the same way religious extremists do: they can use their faith system to justify whatever the fuck they want to say and do, no matter how illogical or insane it actually is.
I'm sorry to be That Fan, but we are not supposed to have holodecks yet.
THANK YOU. Seriously, what the hell. Unless this is technology that ONLY Discovery has (in which case, Tyler was not impressed enough by it) and that is ONLY used to training simulations, and not for fake beach vacations and/or All The Sex.
It's... kind of weird that the computer now says approving things about your food choices? I don't know how I feel about this. It's definitely something to remember for writing fanfic, though. What does it say if you order something unhealthy, I wonder?
FOOD-SHAMING COMPUTER. ...That is all.
- Wow, Stamets is definitely experiencing some lingering effects from his mushroom trip, isn't he? Love all the groovy word choice, nice way to subtly/not-so-subtly let us know "by the way, he might still kind of be tripping balls." I wonder how Culber feels about this.
I'm calling it now, there's going to be a "Stamets is addicted to mycelium" episode, a la Garak and "The Wire".
I could have sworn that before we said that that was during the Klingon attack that killed her parents? It... it was Klingons who killed her parents, right, not Logic Extremists? I'm so confused right now.
It was definitely the Klingon attack that killed Burnham's parents, but the attack where Sarek had to mind-meld with her was a separate attack. At least according to Memory Alpha (so far). I'll have to rewatch the premiere to see if the show's contradicted itself already or if we just ASSUMED that flashback of kid!Burnham happened after a Klingon attack.
Hey, look, it's Amanda! And oh god it's Vulcan!Burnham again. Oh god I don't like Vulcan!Burnham. Eugh. Less of her, please. I love Burnham when she has feelings, I so don't like her when she's doing full-on Vulcan, though.
I was so pleased with Amanda in this episode, I have to say. Good mama. ♥ But agreed, no more full-on Vulcan Burnham, show, please. It's so damned forced. (On Burnham's part, not on Sonequa Martin-Green's part, she's doing a fantastic job.)
Burnham I love you but could you not maybe have had this realization about how your shitty foster father is never going to live up to your emotional needs while you were on the Shenzhou? I feel like Georgiou would have been very proud of this development.
*scribbles this down to go into the 'Distant Skies' sequel* :3
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Date: 2017-10-24 02:24 am (UTC)If I was stuck on Discovery, I'd definitely be using any and all possible modes of escapism possible, including illicit holodeck visits.
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Date: 2017-10-25 03:40 am (UTC)Yeah, you can't tell me that anyone capable of coding a training simulation wouldn't also be distributing illicit escapist scenarios on the side, either. I know too many software engineers to buy that for an instant.
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Date: 2017-10-25 03:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-10-25 04:36 am (UTC)I'd say maybe 70%? I'd guess higher but with new technology there's a fair chance it's hard to get realistic enough porn to please any but the most desperate, while "quiet beach scene" is probably pretty damned easy to code (but also nets you fewer of whatever perks these are being sold / bartered for).
Then again, I'm fairly low libido, myself, so my estimates may not be the most realistic...
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Date: 2017-10-25 06:21 am (UTC)Yeah, what if your partner poofs away at the moment of orgasm, just like in the training sims?
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Date: 2017-10-25 03:39 am (UTC)...Oh god, I kind of want to use it like that, now. Like, yeah *flips the sign* live long and prosper, asshole.
THANK YOU. Seriously, what the hell. Unless this is technology that ONLY Discovery has (in which case, Tyler was not impressed enough by it) and that is ONLY used to training simulations, and not for fake beach vacations and/or All The Sex.
Yeah, there's just no freaking excuse. I've seen some people saying it's only for tactical simulations, but... how would they limit that? Clearly it can be used to simulate highly specific scenarios, since they were replaying their escape from the prison ship except with guns, so it's not just pre-coded simulations that are set up in advance. Unless Lorca has a highly-developed background in computer coding that he hasn't mentioned. So what, exactly, would prevent anyone from using it for anything other than tactical simulations? Like beaches, or sex?
(Granted, re: the sex part, it's possible that whatever magical apparatus automatically cleans Quark's holosuites hasn't been invented yet. I'd buy that. But that's not much of a limitation for anyone who doesn't respect the maintenance crew, and it doesn't limit non-sexual scenarios at all.)
FOOD-SHAMING COMPUTER. ...That is all.
We've already talked about this, but... yeah. I am concerned. Like, has potential! But also potential for abuse. Maybe it's programmed to only say positive things? "Delicious apple pie with ice cream, creamy and delicious." That'd be okay.
I'm calling it now, there's going to be a "Stamets is addicted to mycelium" episode, a la Garak and "The Wire".
Oh, I hope so!
It was definitely the Klingon attack that killed Burnham's parents, but the attack where Sarek had to mind-meld with her was a separate attack. At least according to Memory Alpha (so far). I'll have to rewatch the premiere to see if the show's contradicted itself already or if we just ASSUMED that flashback of kid!Burnham happened after a Klingon attack.
Yeah, but did Memory Alpha just add that based on this episode? You're probably right that we just assumed, I just... jeez, poor Burnham. How many traumatizing events do we really need to subject her to?!
I was so pleased with Amanda in this episode, I have to say. Good mama. ♥ But agreed, no more full-on Vulcan Burnham, show, please. It's so damned forced. (On Burnham's part, not on Sonequa Martin-Green's part, she's doing a fantastic job.)
I was pleased with Amanda, except I also kind of wanted to be like "Do you see what a giant asshole your husband is? Could you, like, talk to him about that, maybe?" (Not at ALL Sonequa Martin-Green's fault, no. It's clearly intentional. It's just also really, really uncomfortable.)
*scribbles this down to go into the 'Distant Skies' sequel* :3
*squeals*
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Date: 2017-10-25 02:32 pm (UTC)That was something I really quite enjoyed from the 1st Star Trek reboot film -- pre-Academy Spock using "Live long and prosper" as code for "Go fuck yourselves." XD
Granted, re: the sex part, it's possible that whatever magical apparatus automatically cleans Quark's holosuites hasn't been invented yet. I'd buy that. But that's not much of a limitation for anyone who doesn't respect the maintenance crew, and it doesn't limit non-sexual scenarios at all.
If they are using it for sex, there's got to be a Rom on the ship. :P But I think the simplest explanation might be that the tech only exists on Discovery. And since the mycelium drive clearly gets buried by history, it's possible that the holodeck tech also gets deep-sixed for a century or so.
We've already talked about this, but... yeah. I am concerned. Like, has potential! But also potential for abuse. Maybe it's programmed to only say positive things? "Delicious apple pie with ice cream, creamy and delicious." That'd be okay.
I like that interpretation. Less food shaming, more "Hey! This is what's good about this food!" "Baked macaroni and cheese. A good source of protein and also very comforting."
You're probably right that we just assumed, I just... jeez, poor Burnham. How many traumatizing events do we really need to subject her to?!
It also adds a bit of a characterization problem. Depending on how young she was when her parents were killed, they might have been abstract concepts to her. And abstract concepts don't motivate people to commit mass murder in order to prevent a war that might/might not be on the cards.
I was pleased with Amanda, except I also kind of wanted to be like "Do you see what a giant asshole your husband is? Could you, like, talk to him about that, maybe?"
Yeahhhhhhhh, that came to me later. That's always been a thing with Amanda's character. And like... I'm pretty sure she DOES talk to him about what a giant asshole he is. Which Sarek ignores, because oh his illogical Human wife, isn't she cute? My only consolation is that this comes back to bite him in the ass. A lot. (His second wife was Human as well. Which makes me think that his Vulcan wife dumped him like a hot stone when she realized what a douche he was, and he couldn't get another Vulcan woman to marry him because he's kind of a terrible person.)
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Date: 2017-10-25 07:53 am (UTC)no subject
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